It started off bad right away. Seated at the Weary Traveler, I asked the Portequese (after our introductions by Roberta) "So, what are you doing here?" (as in Madison)
He snicked, coughed, rolled his eyes and stuttered a bit before saying "Of course, that question." Stutter, stutter, cough and putter.
"It is a cultural difference."
"Yeah?" I asked, forcing myself to make some kind of eye contact. It was hard, I disliked the man upon hello.
"Yes. Yes. You see, in Portugual you would never ask someone what they are doing here. Perhaps you would ask them how they are doing, or how the weather is, but .... *cough* it is not something that is done to ask them what they are doing here."
I glanced over to Roberta who was giving me a long, knowing stare. It took me a little while to catch onto what I was supposed to know.
My brows furrowed in concentration as he then went on to explain "how indians are supposed to be quiet, polite and just let the conversation happen."
Oy. I guess a Portuguese would know more than me. Maybe anyone would know more than me, I am a very inquisitive person. I like to ask questions. It's when I stop asking them that you should be worried. So I asked him "Are you offended?"
"NO, no. I am not offended..." and then he went on to explain more cultural differences and just how much he wasn't offended that I would ask such a blunt question.
Finally Roberta says "Well, she was just asking as a way to get to know you..."
"And" I interceded, "because Roberta had already made introductions and told me a little about you, I thought the question was okay. If I had never met you, I never would have asked such a question right away."
Of course, I never would have talked to him either, but that's beside the point. I am committed to giving an hour of my time for an american indian enthusiast to "get to know the natives."
Anyway, Roberta quickly said "But let's move on. Laura here is an artist, and a writer...and a ..." but I didn't hear everything she said because I was in shock hearing myself being described as an artist and a writer in the same sentence. She said more about the kind of stuff The Portuguese was interested in learning about -- none of which I can really remember because they were all academic terms that no one ever uses. Let's put it this way, we had a 5-10 minute discussion on "how natives are confronted with colonialism every time they sit down to write something-- anything."
Sigh. It's funny really, if the Portuguese had his dream conversation with his idea of a "real" indian, the real indian ... wait, I guess they would have been exactly like he said -- polite. But they wouldn't have contributed a single word to the conversation, or even spoke english for that matter.
End result? Meeting him was a disaster, I can understand why Roberta asked me (desperate times call for desperate measures), I felt like he was confrontational about his perceptions of what ... how........should...native be and are. I walked away feeling confused and even a little more bitter about....
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'My brows furrowed in concentration as he then went on to explain "how indians are supposed to be quiet, polite and just let the conversation happen."'
Maybe I shouldn't laugh but that really made me chuckle :D
Funny that he thought that asking why he was in the U.S. was rude. We were asked that all the time in England, Wales, and Canada. I guess the English are rude too. :/ Of course, he didn't say it was rude, but pointing out that it just isn't done is kind of rude in and of itself. It's confrontational in nature too. Judging you as an Indian in comparison of what he believe all Indisans are suppose to be is pretty darn rude too.
I'm pretty darn rude for saying he's rude when I only got a small sense of him though. heh.
No he was rude and a bit of a bastard to boot. I am still kind of pissed an hour of my time was wasted...but at the same time I have something to think about.
I just can't imagine ANYONE liking this fellow.
Probably because he's European. Some people here have an attitude that everyone overseas is smarter, nicer, sexier, and more interesting than people here. People are people. Europe has really nice people and then again they have some real assholes just like we do. I get kind of pissy when people excuse assholes just because they have a cool accent, and come from abroad. I'll be nice to anyone and welcome you with open arms, but if you're an asshole, forget about it. I remember this Swedish boy that was a total prick but everyone adored him just because he was Swedish. He'd treat all the girls like dirt, try to steal other men's girlfriends, and was just a sleaze. They'd think he was sexy because he's Swedish so he'd get away with it. What's the Swedish word for slimeball?
i'm surprised you were as polite to him as you were - he sounds like a jackass. and a bigoted elitist, too. but the jackass part is more annoying.
perhaps instead of asking if he was offended you should have just said "fuck you, asshole. oh, i'm sorry - does that not fit your stereotype, either?"
and i don't know why you'd be surprised at being described as both a writer and an artist - you are both, aren't you? maybe you haven't reached professional status but just consider that more as keeping your olympic-level amatuer status. right? right.
"just because we talk about peace don't mean we can't throw no jooooointz - POP!" - from the album: de la soul...ARE DEAD!
oops - that wasn't supposed to be anonymous; i said it.
When Roberta dropped me off and he was in the car she said "You guys should maybe get together and chat sometime..." I didn't answer and she repeated ...at which point I was halfway across the yard and then I muttered a "Sure thing!" and smiled.
Ha ha fat chance.
i admire your self-restraint.
i'm sure you censored some in this post, but really, i think I personally would have become a bit more...oh... confrontational, demanding, and a little passive agressive in return. I'd have said something about how preconceived notions of how society *should* act sometimes thwarts good ideas from happening and how slimy politicians enjoy answering questions without saying anythign substantive, so... what was it that you said you do here? I didn't catch your answer...
~L
I smiled at the irony of the situation that Hajadre found herself in with this European. My wife and I met with Hajadre just a month ago in a bistro in downtown Madison. My wife didn't talk to me for a week afterwards. While Hajadre's inquisitiveness may be refreshing to some, to others with pending "issues" it must slap their sensibilities. -Manape
I am so sorry to have caused any strife between you and your wife. It's never my intention to disarm anyone or cause uneasiness...
You have given me food for thought -- in that maybe a "little" toning...but how would one do that?
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